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I changed the photos to some different ones.
http://www.geocities.com/cichlidnewbie/classic_blue.html
lloyd berg
10-04-2005, 07:04 PM
nice stuff, jenn. i can hardly wait to crash at your place for snowboarding holidays (you rent rooms don't ya?? and live near a cool slope??or 3??)j/k
nice fishes. you can't pull rookie on me no more. next time you ask a question i'm sitting back to see what your really fishing for..
Don Vito
10-04-2005, 10:11 PM
Love the pleco! :D
crazyred
10-04-2005, 10:15 PM
Awesome pics Jenn!! Vampire pleco??? :eek: Never heard of it......does he "vant to shuck you blahd?" :LOL j/k He's pretty cute....why vampire???
DevinJM
10-05-2005, 05:09 AM
zat iz quite ze pleco. how big will he get?
That pleco actually has 'a tooth' , he gets about 10". Must have suppliments such as blood worm, cant live on algae alone. I've actually given him pieces of tiger prawn, he carries it around sucking on it. All the cichlids are TERRIFIED of him, they get too close, he throws up his sail fin, they bolt.
I never said I was an amature, just new to cichlids. I have found that sometimes things you knew, or thought you knew turn out to be albolutly false. Also, theres always different approachs to everything. And why do you say that Lloyd? I'm certainly no fishy expert. You guys on here know way more than I do. I've just taken alot of the challenge out by getting a huge tank with HUGE filteration. Not much happens in that tank. Everything stays ace. (except for that BAD hap!)
I have a huge fire eel in that tank too--you guys gotta see him. I raised him from a wee thing, can't believe how fast he grew.
Oh, and Lloyd, just bring a wet suit and snorkel. You can stay in the tank until you catch that geo. Just keep your fingers and toes in, the arowana won't bite unless she thinks a diget is a worm.
lloyd berg
10-05-2005, 09:31 AM
ok, but don't tell the forum. you would be exceeding the inch/gal. rule big time!! i'm 6' 6". lol.
you still haven't caught that geo??
Haven't tried. Was hoping she'd forget what the net was if I didn't try for a while. Then I got ich in her destination tank (the pollenis share with the geos). Today is the day though. Be a little squishy in the tank, its 6'. Just dont pee in the water--we should be fine ;)
Well todays the day, maybe. Hey Red, did you send me an ich curse or what? I have ich in a different tank today, and this is mystifying. Black tip shark has spots. This should be a challenge. Theres gouramis, tetras, barbs, killi, and an upside down cat in that tank. Going to see if I can find more female Haps too. When did these fish start ruling every minute of every day off?
Wish me luck guys.
crazyred
10-05-2005, 10:29 AM
I try to refrain from spreading my propensity for ick into other peoples tanks......maybe the little buggies fall off the fish and go through the computer lines. :eek: I guess you'll have to proceed a little more cautiously in treating this tank.....what with the tetras in there and all. What are you gonna use and will you just half dose?
Going to see my fish guy for advice. That shark is delicate too, no scales.
I cant for the life of me figure out how ich got in that tank.
crazyred
10-05-2005, 10:42 AM
Tough call, did you use anything (fishnets, etc.) from your other ick tank on this one? I guess you could theoretically tranfer it yourself if you put your hands in an ick infested tank to do something, and then stick your hands in another tank without washing really well......I'm not sure, that is a very intriguing thought......did you do anything like that?
no maam. Was very very careful. Nothing has been in that tank. That one tank is my husbands responsibility for water changes and feeding. His hands were definatly no where in my tank (the one that originally had ich)
I have 7 tanks, son has 1, hubby has one--seems even to me :D
crazyred
10-05-2005, 10:55 AM
:LOL Yeah, technically I "share" all my tanks with my son....yeah, right. They're mine....get away from 'em! :LOL I let my son name the fish...that's good enough. I'll give him one of the bettas.
Ick is still such a mystery to me. I have no idea how it might have popped up in your tank. Hope you fish guy has some sage wisdom for you on treatment options.....sounds like it could be tricky.
Yeah, this guys been dealing with fish for 26 yrs. Hes from Vietnam and actually used to swim for and catch fish from the wild there when he was a young'n. He definatly knows his stuff.
Just waiting for my friend to get herself pretty, wanted company on this voyage. Big city--everything takes forever, driving especially.
crazyred
10-05-2005, 11:06 AM
Cool, let us know what you find out. I had originally wanted some tetras, but with my ickiness that I get I decided I would wait. I'm full now, but some day I might have a tetra tank (never can quit feeding the MTS demon!!).....I would have to feel confident about my ability to treat ick and so far I'm improving, but much to learn.
Yeah, I hear you. Thats the great thing about this guy, if hes in the mood, he'll talk for 2 hrs non-stop--and you learn tons. Will let you know what he has to say. its been 20 min, I'm afraid my friend is going to have to be pretty enough. Got ants in my pants, tired of waiting--going to get her now. TTFN--will post when I get back.
crazyred
10-05-2005, 11:12 AM
Great, see ya...have fun!
Buddha_Red
10-05-2005, 12:08 PM
has anything been added in that new ick infected tank? Any possible fish transfers or nets being used in more than one tank?
Half dose for any fish that has no scales. It will kill them at full dose. Ick has to be introduced. it could have laid dormant since your last outbreak. it is common to introduce it and it takes two to three weeks to show up.. how long has it been since your other tanks outbreak?
what temp is the new outbreak tank set at?
Buddha_Red
10-05-2005, 12:13 PM
the vampire is beautiful. i have seen a full grown one about 6 years old. I very impressive fish to say the least.
Stores pay LOTS for an adult vampire. I got to examine it carefully and it was simply amazing. The coloration sttays the same even when huge.
Nothing has been into that tank Buddha. No nets, no fish, no water no nothing. Its been about 9 months and a sterilization since it was used as a hospital tank. Temp is 83. Makes me rethink the general opinion that ich isn't ever present in the water. Anyway, what I was told to do is full dose Aquari-Sol 5 days, bump the temperature to 85, add 1tsp salt per 5 gallon (NOW--WITH REDS TRAGIC effects of salt on her barbs, I will measure very carefully, watch very carefully and post all info)
Yeah, that Vampire is awsome. One of my prize fish. Paid $70 Canadian for him. Had him since about May.
crazyred
10-05-2005, 01:40 PM
One teaspoon per 5 gal. sounds safe. I added (per instructions on the box) 1 TABLEspoon per 5 gallons. :eek: The platies and pleco didn't care, but I sure paid with 5 out of 6 of my cherry barbs.
:( I think you're on a good track....as long as you know what you're doing.....surely your fish guy wouldn't steer you wrong.
DevinJM
10-05-2005, 02:06 PM
Easy on the temp, cause 85 is probably enough to push some temp sensitive species over the edge. The highest I would have it is 82
Nope, my fish are fine Devin. I don't have a single tank here under 83.(I know this isn't true for all/everyones fish) Some are always at 85, and they aren't Discus. This tank is at 83, and I think I'm going to have trouble getting it any higher without buying another heater. Salt and Meds are in, so far so good. No obvious distress. I know why this happened. My folks were just here, and my Mom kept opening all the doors and windows because she was too hot.
Buddha_Red
10-05-2005, 03:20 PM
this just baffles me. Since i started my quarenten system i have not had any hint of ick in my big tank.
i am starting to wonder if ick is somehow airborne as well. it has to get in there somehow, and ick isnt in tap water or i would have it constantly.
i will do more research, this is interesting to me for sure. Good luck on the treatment again. Im pulling for you bigtime.
DevinJM
10-05-2005, 03:21 PM
Ahh, mine is usuall around 78, and it usually isnt recomended that you keep your tanks that hot.
Buddha_Red
10-05-2005, 07:07 PM
if i turn on the aquarium light, i get 80 degrees without a heater and i have comfortable central air and a box fan and celieng fan in the room.
Without a heater, the lowest i have seen is 78 degrees but that was in the winter with no heater on and no lights.
The heater is just for protection in case someone piles dry ice around my tank hehe texas= never that cold
Don't rub it in Budha. It gets plenty cold here, and I hate the cold. No such thing as too hot. Might be interesting to have some tank water completely analized by a lab. See exactly whats alive in aged tank water.
I don't believe I have any fish that are sensitive to temp 81-85. Majority of mine are at 83. I had an accident once with a heater scewing up. Tank of guppies was sitting at 96! Not kidding here, I have no idea how long it was like that, but definatly not more than 12 hours. Anyway, the fish were all fine. (heater has been replaced)
Jaimecid
10-06-2005, 03:46 AM
Nice pixes....that pleco is a celebrity....looks cool :)
thanks! Will get some full tank photos if the hubby will ever bring the darn camera home. Been asking for it for like 2 weeks!
Ok day 2 ich treatment. Shark looks better (his eyes are clear again--probably more so from the salt than the medicine) Still has spots. I caught it right away though, only about 10 or 12 spots--very easy to see on him. No new spots. Barbs look a little washed out, or I'm paranoid. If they looked anymore faded tomorrow I will do a water change to lower that salt level a touch.
crazyred
10-06-2005, 10:16 PM
Could be from the stress, or owner panic. ;) Just keep an eye on their fins. If their fins start looking frayed and chewed up and you haven't seen any aggression, then you might have a problem.
That's what told me I had a problem.....there was nothing aggressive in my tank to do the fin damage that my fish had. All salt damage. :(
DevinJM
10-07-2005, 05:20 AM
barbs will fade if stressed, it could be from the salt or the medecin, but if you are treating a shark then you would have used less than full dose and that wouldn't stress them too bad.
nope everyones fins are fine. I know what you mean, they get burned. This is aparently a very mild treatment, and the guy insisted full strength. But he also added that for my fish it was fine, others it wasn't--then he listed off a dozen fish by their scientific name and he has a very heavy accent--so I don't have a clue what they were--I was in a hurry, no time to ask for a translation.
DevinJM
10-07-2005, 08:18 AM
sharks are sensitive to meds, be cautious.
The shark looks great very few spots left now today, its the barbs that look off, but they are acting fine. Day 3, treat again today. I thought this was supposed to take longer for the parasite to drop off? (4 days I thought)
crazyred
10-07-2005, 04:38 PM
I think they drop off at different intervals depending on how long they've been on. Some have probably been on longer than others.
lloyd berg
10-07-2005, 10:43 PM
no meds have an effect on the trophs while attached to the fish. they will hatch when ready. the meds need to be in the water at that time to kill the free swimming mites before they morph again in the gravel. you can't kill them then either. approx. 3 days later they hatch to free swimming and are vulnerable to the meds again until they invade another weak host.
Well that one didn't go so well. 5 days treatment, then the shark was reinfected worse than the first time. Barbs and tetras are fine with the salt level. Carboned out the meds, giving 1 day break, 50% waterchange, and doing another 5 day round of meds. (incase anyone was wondering)
crazyred
10-12-2005, 02:12 PM
Sounds like a good plan. I think some cases are tougher to treat than others. I read that once ick strikes a fish and it's been treated successfully the fish is immune to that particular strain of ick. Unfortunately, there are thousands of strains!!! Seems like I should have had all of them by now. :rolleyes: You too Jenn!
lloyd berg
10-12-2005, 03:08 PM
there are strains of the ick parasite that have gained some immunity to exposed medications,too.
jenn, don't be surprised at the new spots. your med could do nothing to the little trophites in their cyst phase hiding in your substrate. now that they have successfully attached to the fish it will be another 3 or so days before you can kill the free swimming trophont stage. upping the temp. speeds things along. blast 'em good this time. hee,hee.
and if your shark is the most vulnerable to attachment you may want to isolate him. his inability to fight off the attaching trophont is keeping you in more cycles than you may be up for.
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