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RichT
05-17-2003, 08:12 PM
Hello all. Sorry I haven't been keepin' up like I should, but I've been really busy. I'm buying a small farm and in the process of building a new home...all of which is about 80 miles from my current home. This and still work a full time job.

Anyway, I may...repeat MAY, have my marine stuff for sale within the next couple months. By stuff, I mean everything. No, I'm not getting out of it. It's just with all the things I have going on, I don't want my critters to be the ones who suffer. Alot, also depends on how fast my current home sells. Since one tank is a room divider and is part of a wall, it'll have to stay. But, I'd rather see everything inside go to someone who knows and wants Marine/Reef critters. Rather than someone who aquired it with the home purchase.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Holy cow...I just thought of something. If an aquarium pro member bought my house, then we'd all win.:D

I'll keep you posted if I decide to sell.

Zack
05-17-2003, 11:25 PM
give a hint as to what you would or may be selling?

RichT
05-18-2003, 05:45 AM
I've got everything I have listed on my web site. Everything may be for sale.

Nooboon
05-18-2003, 11:11 PM
What sort of farm are you buying Rich?

RichT
05-19-2003, 07:13 PM
It's not really a farm per say, but that's what my banker calls it. Anything over 5 acres is considered a farm here State side.

It's 40 acres, 23 of it in timber, 17 in tillable (which is in alfalfa right now). Hopefully in a year or so, 10 or so of the tillable will be in C.R.P. (Conservation Reserve Program). There is a steady flowing creek about 50 yards in the border, running along the east and half of the north side. Good building site, and good potential pond site.

There are many huntable critters there, too. Deer, wild turkey, quail, chuckar, and coyotes, also. It's about 5 miles from a major river, which is loaded with huge catfish and bass.

Nooboon
05-19-2003, 11:14 PM
That sounds absolutely wonderful.

So there are no stock on the land at all currently?

How long before the trees are expected to be ready to harvest?

By the way, what is a chuckar?

RichT
05-21-2003, 09:30 AM
So there are no stock on the land at all currently?
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Stock!? Do you mean livestock (cattle, etc), wildlife stock (deer, etc)?

There are an abundance of wildlife on the property, and surrounding properties.

As far as the timber, it could be logged now. But, I'm going to selectively log trees for my own use (woodburing furnace). I didn't buy the ground to make a profit on, just a place to hunt and live on.

The C.R.P. (conservation reserve program) I was refering to before is a program set up by the goverment to preserve agriculture grounds and wildlife habitat.
For example, a farmer (who has grown corn soybeans wheat, etc.) on his farm for years sees his ground isn't producing the yields it had in the past (for reasons of soil erosion, lack of nutrients, etc.) can have a CRP representative come out and survey his/her land. They will tell them what would be best for his land, such as putting in CRP Trees, CRP shallow water, CRP grassland, etc. Let's assume the ground has a soil erosion problem from years for tilling and harvesting. They may decide CRP trees would be best. The government will decide what trees would benifit the soil best, how many, etc. They will even set-up a plot map as to where, how many and what kind of trees to plant. The farmer signs a contract for 10 or 15 years. Then gov provides the trees, at no cost. The farmer provides the labor. For the next 10 or 15 years, life of the contract, the government will pay the farmer around $150-165 per acre, per year to keep the ground in CRP trees. Nothing can be harvested on the ground thoughout the life of the contract. This does many things: the root system creates a stable soil base for future farming, puts needed nutrients back in the soil, provides the all needed ozone benifits of trees, creates habitat for wildlife AND gives the farmer an income. After the life of the contract, the farmer can do as he wishes (log it out for his profit and then go back to farming corn soybeans, etc, or keep it in trees), it's up to the farmer.

If I put 10 acres in CRP Trees, the government will pay me nearly $25,000 over the life of the contract. And it will provide the good hunting habitat I'm looking for for myself and my children. And it doesn't cost me a dime (except for the labor of planting the trees.) It's an awesome program.

By the way, what is a chuckar?

A Chukar is a game bird. Size wise, they are in between a quail and Pheseant. They nest just like a pheasant, and eat the same types of food. And they are tasty, too. Many people here in the mid-west US raise them for hunting dog field trials, as they are easily raised in a domestic setting, yet will thrive when turned loose in the wild, unlike many other pen raised game birds.

Just a note to all of the anti-hunter people out there reading this.

See, we hunters do care about the environment. We aren't just a bunch of blood thirtsy red-necks with guns who like to kill things.

Nooboon
05-21-2003, 03:10 PM
Very true Rich. In fact I believe many hunters care more about the well being of our wildlife than most anti-gun folk. If our game animals and their habitat are not preserved we will lose our sport - we realise that. Just because we like to shoot an animal, doesn't mean we don't respect it.

Anyway, yes I meant livestock (ie cattle etc). Sorry about the confusion there.

Also what sort of trees would it be likely that the CRP will recommend? They must be pretty fast growing to be able to form a reasonable habitat in 10 - 15 years.
Do you think you will leave the trees in after the contract has expired? It would be nice to be able to, but you would no longer be making a profit from that land. As you said though, you are not trying to make a profit, it is a lifestyle choice I guess.

RichT
05-21-2003, 08:25 PM
There are no livestock on the property now. Although, I'd like to get 2 or 3 beef cows, not dairy. And maybe in a few years a couple horses. Right now, just cows, though.

I'm unsure of the type of trees CRP would suggest. It really depends on the soil type, roll-off, etc. There is alot of clay in the soil, I do know that.

When the contract expires, you have the otpion of renewal, also. I would keep the trees, though. Maybe log some, but only for personal use, not for sale. Heck, maybe in 17 years, when I retire, I could build a log cabin. Who knows.

Right now, I'm trying to decide if I want to go all electric or electric and LP for my household utilities. I'll have a wood-burning stove to use in conjunction with the elec or LP. But, dryer, range, etc. I'm unsure of. :o Decisions Decisions Decisions. And I haven't even begun!

Nooboon
05-26-2003, 12:27 AM
It really sounds like you are busy.
I hope you find a home for your fish if you decide you do have to sell all of you gear for now.

Good luck with everything